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Wednesday, 06 April 2011 00:48

Church members flood work session


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Victory Baptist Church at its current location on Roanoke Avenue. Victory Baptist Church at its current location on Roanoke Avenue. Church website

Victory Baptist Church members filled the first floor conference room of city hall tonight as council met for its monthly work session.

The crowd was so large that Fire Chief Gary Corbet had to ask many to step outside to trim the audience to 65.

While there is no public forum during the work session, Michael Jones, pastor of the church, said after the meeting church members have concerns about a fence the city has required the church to erect as part of its family life center it is building off Bolling Road. “The city required us to put up an 8 foot fence,” he said, explaining it is something the church was reluctant to do.

A week ago the church was told the fence needs to be moved 3 feet to 4 feet because it is not on the property line.

Moving the fence would cost the church an extra $20,000 to $30,000, Jones said.

Mayor Emery Doughtie told the parishioners before the meeting began he understood the matter was being worked out.

 

In other matters tonight:

 

Council met in closed session but took no action afterward.

 

Council voted that acts coming to the theater do not have to come to council for approval. This was after council approved a dance recital to be held at the venue in May.

The vote was 4-1, with Councilman Ed Liverman voting against the measure. “We’re taking a $21.5 million venue and turning it into a civic center,” he said. “We should weigh each option closely.”

 

 

 

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+3 #23 Renee 2011-04-22 03:10
I am a member of VBC, and I went to the open house tonight, and got to see first hand this fence, from both sides, and I must say. I am very disappointed in our church. On one side the fence looks really nice. On the other side it looks pretty shabby. I don't know who put the fence up but I don't want them doing any work for me. I am also disapponited in the deacons, and our Pastor, for not meeting with the Copelands to discuss this matter. The church should fix this fence. It is a snake pit waiting for it to get warm.....
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+1 #22 needs a new job 2011-04-10 01:25
I need a new job if it takes $20,000 to $30,000 to move that fence. Had to go take a look after all the comments - it looks terrible! The city should enforce their rules or no one should have to follow them.
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+6 #21 Shocked 2011-04-09 22:44
Wow,what a mess with all the talk on this site and Charlie Beaver I had to see for myself.If that was my yard I would contact FIVE ON YOUR SIDE in a heartbeat
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+5 #20 ashamed member 2011-04-09 19:45
I am ashamed of Victory Baptist. Members of the church have intimidated the city c ouncil,mayor,an d planning board with numerous phone calls and invading a work session, not a public meeting, with over 100 people. We need to act like Christians and abide by ciy ordinances like every one else. TREAT OTHERS AS YOU WOULD LIKE TO BE TREATED.
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+5 #19 concerned neighbor 2011-04-09 11:50
For those of you making comments you really need to look at this awful mess in my neighbors yard.Not only are there huge rocks falling down in there yard there is also red dirt and gravel that have washed down from the church site.Also there are 2x4 braces supporting a white vinyl fence which are facing my neighbors property that clearly is a violation of the land use ordinance code.Again all I can say is come see for yourself
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+3 #18 Anthony Finney 2011-04-08 12:07
TO MARK PERKINS: If you read the third sentence of the article you will see the following quote; "While there is no public forum during the work session, Michael Jones, pastor of the church, said after the meeting church members have concerns about a fence the city has required the church to erect as part of its family life center it is building off Bolling Road." Key phrase.... While there is no public forum during the work session. I don't disagree with you, but it seems that the fence doesn't meet land use permits, not that it is about the placement. If it were about the placement of the fence and they wanted it farther away from the houses, then I doubt they would ask to have another fence 4' tall built closer to them. DO NOT WORRY! I understand your problem here though. IF it manages to keep the lights out of the residents windows, and is not of ill taste in appearance and design, then it should be allowed to remain.
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+2 #17 one of neighbors 2011-04-08 08:11
I would like to invite you to come out and view what we consider a disgrace. Some people have not come out to see what the problem is with the back of the property but are making comments. The concern was not about moving the fence. The fence was raised on 'legs' about 3 feet off the ground with 4x4's and riprap rock was placed under it as a retaining wall. 2x4's were bolted on the fence. The project does not meet land use ordinance.
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-4 #16 church member 2011-04-08 00:21
amazed:the fence is on church property and not in the neighbors yard and on VBC property by 3 to 4 ft. the problem is not the fence; problem is the rock below the fence.they did not like them nor did the city;these rocks are called rat-a-rif rock. they want US to put NEW FENCE 4 ft tall beside the 8ft fence to cover the rock..
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+3 #15 crazyyy 2011-04-07 17:09
if the church followed the rules that were given when they put up the fence then let it be. I mean that is whats wrong with people they are never happy. and Maureen you dont have to be the way you are. Sounds like you are one of the noseiest and rudest people on RRSPIN!
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-5 #14 amazed 2011-04-07 13:29
I am amazed that the city council has enough time to think about something as trivial as the placement of a fence. I am sure that this is something that can be worked out without the city council getting involved. Has the church considered the possibility of buying the extra little pieces of land that the fence is now on? It may be cheaper than actually moving the fence. Talk to your neighbors and see what can be worked out.

BUT, I can't believe that the city council, which I remind you voted for the city to take over the operation of the RR theatre, doesn't have a city employee working on oversight of the theatre. What makes it worse is that not only is there no city employee in charge of the venue, but that the city council doesn't want to approve events in the building. WAKE UP city leaders, either you operate the venue or you don't. At this point in the game the city DOES operate the venue. Closing your eyes or turning your backs on it won't make the probelm go away.
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